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Letting consumers go while welcoming contributors and the curious is a great step in the right direction. The Church Growth Masterclass is everything I wish I knew about church growth when I got into ministry more than 20 years ago. Only God can do that. But I believe you can position your church to grow.

You can knock down the barriers that keep you from growing. You can eliminate the things that keep your church from growing and implement some strategies that will help you reach far more people. You can learn more and gain instant access to the course today. Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled; and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.

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Having a modest or low estimate of their own importance? John — How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? Or spirirtual leader? Or christian leader? Jesus also said… John — He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory… John — And I seek not mine own glory…. And NOT follow Jesus?

I have been an Episcopal priest for over 46 years. I have served five happy parishes. To my knowledge, one of them has folded, two are stable, and one is growing after a period of shrinkage and decline. Others continue to do what every renewal movement has endeavored to do and claimed to be doing, i. The church is embedded in whatever culture it finds itself and is likely to be changed by the culture more than it is likely to change the culture.

Human beings really have not changed all that much. We have evolved to be social animals for whom community is not just important but essential. The nature and shape of community changes, but the need for it is constant.

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We have evolved to be storytellers, and we are always exchanging survival information by means of narrative, no matter the form it takes, whether tweets, emails, film, sports, art, music, or comments like this. Whether our stories are true or not, whether or not they serve us well, we continue to communicate with each other just as we are doing here.

Styles of story and modes of communication come and go. Attachment to form is delusional. Christianity made a Faustian bargain with Empire in the fourth century. At that point, we ceased to be a viable movement embodying the principles of the Jesus of the New Testament, i.

American religion at the present moment is Exhibit A for Christianity being detached from the counter-cultural Jesus, who is now for great numbers of people identified with systems such as capitalism and phenomena such as nationalism that he never remotely espoused. Whether we do it with full pews or over the internet or with videos or however, we continue to pump out reams and rivers of teaching that leave people feeling miserable or unconscious or both. We are complicit in the repression of the body although the twin pillars of our faith are incarnation and resurrection of the BODY on almost every level.

And we almost never create safe spaces where people can honestly share who and what they truly are.

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Almost all efforts of churches, including emerging churches, are directed towards institutional survival. We imagine that when people appear to be happy they are getting their deep needs met, and that when we address deep needs should we actually do so people will be genuinely happy and not disturbed, shocked, or resistant. There is a tremendous reluctance on the part of human beings, Christians being no exception, to becoming a conscious species.

I am a pastor in the United Methodist Church. This is the message. We, the church and the church leadership, must adapt our form so that people can hear the message of God through us. If we see the church as the mother and our relationship with God our Father as one that matures us and refines us then we can perhaps understand the ebb and flow of church attendance. We serve and are served by the church. But coming to this understanding takes maturity. As a good parent, the church has a responsibility to foster growth in Christians and encourage healthy connection both between members of the body Church and between itself the church and the believer.

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I have spent a majority of my adult life as a spiritual seeker. I think the main problem for churches is really 2 fold.

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The message of churches across the entire christian domain is moving further and further away from the messages of Jesus. About love, and faith, and poverty.

Most people see modern churches as exercises in hypocrisy. I lay some of the blame upon the Catholic Church, and how they handled the sexual crisis over the last few decades. You cannot serve 2 masters. God and Money. The second problem with modern churches are the people that are in them are not concerned with the values of Jesus, but of conservative political values. I have always believed that Jesus was a God of love understanding and forgiveness. I have a hard time sitting next to someone that thinks that muslims and mexicans are evil or that poor people are lazy, drug addicts are just people with no willpower, and other antiquated ideas of society.

If the church is to have a renaissance, it needs to get back to basics.

Start with the Sermon on the mount, everything Jesus expected his followers to be is right there. If someone is hungry, feed them.

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If someone is sick, comfort them, if someone hates and persecutes you, love them. Times are changing. Pews are emptying. There are a variety of reasons but my point here is a Caution when you dismiss the Consumers leaving. Pretty pathetic to malign them now.

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A Paid, Professional, Pastor, in a Pulpit.. Preaching, to People, in Pews. Makes an interesting study. An interesting challenge. Oy Vey!!! Well, yes to a whole lot of those questions. Most called it synagogue still, but attended weekly, gave money, etc.

Paul certainly started churches. I could do something like this. I think. And 15 additional questions. Can you help? Or shepherd?